What do classical Chinese medicine and Sufism have in common? More than you might think.

Dr. Edward Neal and Mel Hopper Koppelman are joined by Pere Garcia, a Chinese medicine practitioner and longtime Sufi teacher from Barcelona, to explore how both traditions converge on the same fundamental truth: that life organizes itself around light and breath. From the Neijing’s cosmology of coherence to Rumi’s search for divine light in the human heart, this conversation reveals that the deepest questions in medicine and spirituality may always lead back to the same source.

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