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Qiological Podcast: The Invitation to Troubled Times

2025-08-25T14:38:18-07:00June 25th, 2025|Audio, Podcast, Published Resources|

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with Michael Max, Edward Neal, and Mel Hopper Koppelman

What do we do when the world feels like it’s unraveling? How to respond when our systems—political, economic, medical—feel brittle, even broken? It’s easy to fall into despair, or look away. But maybe what we’re being asked to do is look closer. To stay present. In this conversation with Ed Neal and Mel Hopper Koppelman, we explore the edges where medicine, ecology, and culture meet. Both are thinkers who don’t shy away from complexity. Ed draws from classical Chinese texts and ecological systems. Mel, from her knowledge of science and systems thinking.

Qiological Podcast: Nature in Medicine

2025-08-25T14:38:19-07:00June 25th, 2023|Audio, Podcast, Published Resources|

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with Michael Max and Edward Neal

East Asian medicine is a nature based medicine. And nature… nature is weird, and mysterious. And as much as we like to come up with “Laws of Nature” they are more like approximations. Useful for sure. But you’re asking for trouble if you confuse the map with the territory. And with nature, the territory is always changing. How do you keep your senses open and unencumbered with habit and belief? How do you stay present to what your patient might need in this particular moment? How do you wisely use knowledge in such a way that it doesn’t become dogma?

Nei Jing Perspective on Life, the Universe and Acupuncture

2025-08-25T14:43:10-07:00October 20th, 2018|Audio, Podcast, Published Resources|

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With Michael Max and Edward Neal

We trace our medicine back to the Neijing, but most of our actual practices come from a more modern perspective. Going back to those roots is not easy. Even for native speakers of Chinese, reading the 文言文 wen yan wen, the classic Chinese is difficult. For those of us in the modern West, these ancient texts are challenging. They require not just language, but a minset that views the world from through a completely different set of lenses and prisms than Cartesian and materialistic science offers to us. Immersion in this ancient material changes us if we allow it. Gives us hints at seeing how matter and energy interact in ways toward which modern medical science is blind.

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